Friday, 9 January 2009
Poddu Amman surrenders to GoSL
Poddu Amman, LTTE intelligence wing leader and former second in command of the LTTE has surrendered to the GoSL. The surrender took place in an undisclosed location when the LTTE veteran handed himself over to a SLA Special Forces unit. This news does not come as shock to loyal followers of the LTTE as our supreme commander had fallen out with Poddu Amman for his failure to effectively target the GoSL military commanders and top politicians. The President of Tamil Eelam banished the intelligence wing leader a few weeks ago, and ever since then Mr Amman had been looking for ways to give himself up to the GoSL as he feared for his life from LTTE loyalists who were unhappy with his performance. Mr Amman has been taken into Special Forces custody and is held in undisclosed location where he is being interrogated by Sri Lankan security apparatus. Our source has relayed to us that the surrender of Mr Amman will not affect LTTE operations in any way as he was gradually relieved of his duties, and is not known to hold any sensitive information regarding the LTTE. A replacement intelligence wing leader has already been found, EFT will not disclose her name for national security reasons.
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WOW!
Mahen, I hope this time, you are right!
Heh! Heh! Thanks. You are the first to give out the name of the looser..
Good job!
Our source has relayed to us that the surrender of Mr Amman will not affect LTTE operations in any way
- Mahen (9/1/2009)
Although Paranthan has fallen, supply lines to EPS and the MKN axis are intact as the LTTE never used the A9 to service defences north of Paranthan.
- Mahen (31/12/2008)
Mr Amman will not be any effect to pussycats. When you're six feet under ground another few feet won't make a difference.
Hmm, Mahen is a Special Forces member or MI member. Whaw! what a vivid account of events.
If this is true....Great news!
He does not want to kill anymore...
Great news for Tamils & all people...
No say it ain't so!
Mahen I hope this news is a news!
Pottu after seeing SLA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGGTcC8ZMNQ
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
How many have been sidelined by Pirba so far? Soosai, Poddu, Bhanu and so many others have been "sidelined" because of alleged performance issues.
Its unlikely Poddu performed any worse. Its the govt that got better at tackling LTTE. Anyone who replaces him will suffer the same fate.
Why didn't Vesha kill him? Born again Chola king making too many mistakes. Some may think Vesha did the nasty on Poddu to relive some presuure by Indians angry about Rajiv Gi. But Poddu will soon start to sing like a rare canary from Eelam. He will reveal how Vesha planned the assassination. There goes any ceasefire hopes under BJP.
Pottu has been relieved from MI duty log ago and IT WAS kept top secret and he was not in charge of MI when Anurthapura AF was attacked.
I think he surrendered as an individual. this may be a grand plan of VP to get India's support. I think India expected pottu to be surrendered to India to try him for Rajiv assasination.
Rajan said...
Pottu has been relieved from MI duty log ago and IT WAS kept top secret and he was not in charge of MI when Anurthapura AF was attacked.
I think he surrendered as an individual. this may be a grand plan of VP to get India's support. I think India expected pottu to be surrendered to India to try him for Rajiv assasination.
Grand plan my ass... :D
Well I hope that GOSL and India could pardon Poddu and make him work for betterment of Sri Lanka, as with how Karuna and Pillian is doing (yes there are many shortcomings, but still good).
All these people have been misled with wrong ideologies, and one day when they reach psychological maturity, they realise their mistakes.
If Poddu has surrendered, I hope that GOSL will make an exemplary citizen out of him.
Yes, people make grave mistakes in life, but it does not mean that they can not be exemplary citizens serving the mankind in the rest of their lives.
I think anyone other than VP can successfully surrender
Pottu may join Karuna's political party and chill on government pay
I don't think VP was expecting a lot from Pottu
Pottu just got bored of what he was doing & wanted to make some decisions on his own
I don't think he will get a nice package from SLGOVT the reason is POTTU probably didn't have chance to negotiate a deal before surrender
Anyways this is just my thoughts
I wouldn't mind seeing LTTE surrendering to SLA. My worry is many of the surrendering LTTE will be raped/killed/tortured by sinhala kadaiyas.
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Pottu may join Karuna's political party
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I don't this they are the best of buddies. One of Karuna's grievances before he split was Poddu's carders killing people in Batti during CFA.
Poddu has too much blood in his hands. He will be safe until he has revealed everything. A quick death will be a luxury for him.
The news is very worrying and disheartening.
-Mahen at 05:12
Our source has relayed to us that the surrender of Mr Amman will not affect LTTE operations in any way
-Mahen at 05:27
Did everything changed withing 15 mins?
Have you donkeys read The Deceiver by Frederick Forsyth. "The Price of the Bride" chapter is rather interesting in this context.
Mahen, this serioulsy very worrying (even you yorself said that in your previous post). I beleive Poddu has to be one of the few people who know our commander's whereabouts. This will seriously compromise our leaders safety. I hope you are not true this time.
I am of the personal view that Pillayan, Karuna, Pottu and any other rotten tiger that surrenders should be tried for war crimes.
Pottu orchestrated most of the massacres and suicide attacks and assasinations. Pillayan/karuna were responsible for the deaths of over 600 policemen who surrendered to the LTTE after the IPKF pulled out in March 1990.
If I was the president, I would have them tried and hung in public. Thats what the deserve. Before that I would ensure they were tortured just like they tortured caputred SLA soldiers and civilians they thought were collaborating with the SLA.
These rotten sh*ts deserve nothing less.
NOLTTE=Peace, you can't be more wrong about pottu. He joined and served LTTE with a strong conviction. He is what we call an "uncompromising" man. He was the one who masterminded the "brain wash" how can he be the "brain washed"?
I think he might fight for his cause in his own way even under custody. I wonder whether the surrender it self is a self-sacrifise. If it's not then the character of the man must have changed drastically during the last few years.
This could also be the way LTTE try to cover up the killing of Pottu under VP orders
IsuruJosh,
People make mistakes through wrong convictions.
You have to step aside from our convictions that we have wrongly absorbed into ourselves to see beyond!
Raptor if we also torture our enemy for hatred or fun we become just like them.
NOLTTE=Peace, would you accept VP to be rehabilitated if he surrenders unconditionally?
Beginning of the end for LTTE.
I'm disgusted!
Geezzzzz!
May be other news is also right as one blogger in DW said that Soosai and Sornam are preparing to surrender with 1000 of their cadres.
Oh man...I have no word to describe this.
Mahen, you are such an idiot to say nothing will affect when Poddu surrenders. Poddu knows many things including international LTTE branches.
isurujosh,
I know that you need to be a Super Human to forgive Vezapizza if he has surrendered (since we all are "Prutagjana" people)!
However, think of it with other examples from good side.
Say a company had a great leader who built the whole company. He retires, gives the company's rains to someone else. Then he tells I have nothing to do with that company, I have done my job. .. You really do not give a damn about the old CEO, because the new CEO is the one who is running the show.
I know the above example is not so strongly supporting what I want to say. But I am not advocating to 'lick the arse of Poddu, or Karuna or anyone who gives up'. But if they have surrendered with a strong conviction and remorse on their part, and if they asks for forgiveness, yes we should.
..and we should give them an opportunity to 'pay back'!
VP surrendering now is the most wonderful thing that happen. Think about the positive side.. how many lives that can be saved?
Anyway, I am not trying to convince you nor anyone.. Just jotting down my own thoughts!
Yes, I will forgive Vezapizza if he would surrendered with strong remorse and conviction to make things right at least a bit.
NOLTTE=Peace, you have made a very good argument for your case and conviction. May be even the perceived "uncompromising" men do compromise under certain circumstances. I amazed to see the lack of "focus" that the whole LTTE outfit used to possess. MR is a master of breaking these "focused" outfits. First he took down JVP and now LTTE. MR is a genius, it seems.
First of all, I hope this is true, but won't be surprised if it's not (now that LTTE is nearly dead wouldn't matter much either)
Anyway, Mahen it's interesting you state that, "This news does not come as shock to loyal followers of the LTTE as our supreme commander had fallen out with Poddu Amman for his failure to effectively target the GoSL military commanders and top politicians."
But on your blog on Dec 30th did you say.."Meanwhile, speculation is rife about a schism in the LTTE hierarchy. Rumors are circulating that Poddu Amman and Colonel Soosai have been relieved of duties, and various other Colonels are under house arrest. The blog owner can confirm that these reports are entirely without merit and there is not even a shred of truth in these fabrications. Poddu Amman, Colonel Soosai and the other Colonels are in their respective positions and have the full support of our leader."
Please clarify. How come something without a 'shred of truth' turns out right in less than 10 days?
This arsehole,Poddu, sent 100s innocent youth as suicide bombers, now he surrenders himself with SLA- Isn't that joke? What a chicken he is.
If the god is right, all the Tamils should stone another big fat arsehole, VP, to death.
no way we can forgive vesapillai. if he survives so will LTTE & eelam dream.
later he'll get everybody else killed. pottu, soosai & even mahinda.
so he's got to be exterminated with extreme prejudice. no choice whatsoever.
[I think he surrendered as an individual. this may be a grand plan of VP to get India's support. I think India expected pottu to be surrendered to India to try him for Rajiv assasination.]
Rajah,
Are you low caste son of gun to show your back to someone who gave everything for you? You even glorify VP's action to scape goat Poddu for VP's survival?
[The President of Tamil Eelam banished the intelligence wing leader a few weeks ago, and ever since then Mr Amman had been looking for ways to give himself up to the GoSL as he feared for his life from LTTE loyalists who were unhappy with his performance]
Mahen,
Above sentence is not clear, so can you clarify what you meant to say?
Thank you Mahen for publishing that cracking news.
I'm sure you have crossed some of your limits to find those info.
Is it possible you to provide some more info?
Here is a good news Mahen, here at the hell we Tamilish are the majority so everyone should come here to make Eelam. These days tamilish souls are pouring while other nationalities are minorities. We can easily establish our beloved EEEEelam!!!. If Poddu Amman has surrendered he will be the most heinous traitor of we Tamils.
I have never heard the term "Mr. Amman"!
No Tamil would use those two words in that way!
It is like in Sinhala someone is called.. "Mr Deiyo" or "Mr. God" or "Mr.Venerable"!
Has fake Mahen taken over terrorist Mahen's blog?
Here is a good news Mahen, here at the hell we Tamilish are the majority so everyone should come here to make Eelam. These days tamilish souls are pouring while other nationalities are minorities. We can easily establish our beloved EEEEelam!!!. If Poddu Amman has surrendered he will be the most heinous traitor of we Tamils.
Mahen,
As always, this time too you give the half truth.Is it only Poddu Amman?
If you guyz remember, in a previous blog, I've mentioned about a "Big Fish" on the net.
This is just a start of the suprises.
When USA attacked Iraq, every Anti-American in the view of that Sadaam will do something in the last minute and all his debacles were strategic/tactical to do destroy USA in bigway with chemicale weapons.
When Hitler was cornered everybody thought it was a strategic plan to hit back.
Same story here. Show is over !
I have been visiting both Mahen and Peter's blogs.
I find that Mahen crack some information but then his tone ruins all credibility.
Peter on the other hand has a brain but not too many information. It seems Peter has already conceded. No more in his blog do we find defence related information. He now talks about fundamentals of Tamils in Sri Lanka. They have gone back to square one under MR's leadership. YES THAT IS 30 YEARS BACK!!! It is upto the future generations of Sri Lankans to make sure Separatism does not resurface.
This is too good to be true,
I really have doubts on this news item as well as about the blog owner what side he claims to be in ...
Anyway great entertainment !!!
Pottu Amman TACTICALLY WITHDRAWING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION?
Mahen
This the summary you have been telling us....
Again nice story....I hope this time you gave us a news...
Saturday, 20 December 2008Plain truth
Mahen said
“Knowing it is a no-win situation for the infantry, the GOSL propaganda machine is diverting the observer’s attention to sea and air based activities in the hope of scraping some popular support for continual military aggression. LTTE sources from the front lines confirm that according to information extracted from captured SLA soldiers (including high ranking warrant officers), the GOSL is seriously considering a ceasefire or at least a suspension of hostilities towards the Tamils, the citizens of Thamil Eelaam.”
Sunday, 21 December 2008
Army Moves into Nedunkerni
“LTTE battlefield commanders informed this blog owner that they fail to see why the town is of such importance to the SLA, and added that the move only contributes to thinning out of the 59th division and the TF4, which would expose the units stationed their to LTTE commando raids.”
Monday, 22 December 2008
Demonstration against the LTTE - A farce
“Though the practicalities and logistics of these alliances may appear to be, at best, a compromise, or at worst, a total surrender to the invader, the reality of this particular demonstration is that the Tamil citizens of Yalpanam were forced or misdirected to perform this activity for GOSL propaganda purposes.”
Tuesday, 23 December 2008
Latest addition to TAF fleet
“The latest addition to the TAF fleet is the Pilatus PC-7. The Pilatus PC-7 is the trainer version of the military version Pilatus PC-7 MK II in use by the South African air force for border patrols, ground-to-air attacks, intercepting low / slow flying aircrafts (such as attack helicopters), and counter insurgency missions.”
WEDNESDAY, 24 DECEMBER 2008
Kilinochchi & the IDP Crisis
“An “unceasing waves” type counter attack is believed to be the only way to regain the lost ground and this is expected soon. According to sources close to LTTE military strategy panel this monumental counter attack is expected to be on land, sea and air.”
FRIDAY, 26 DECEMBER 2008
As an Year comes to an end...
“Also, the LTTE strategists are maintaining a higher level of secrecy as things hot-up nearing the counter attack – which would be a mother of all counter attacks. I have been struggling to reach some of my closest and most reliable contacts/sources in Kilinochchi and Mulathivu in the past few days. The festive season may have been a contributing factor.”
TUESDAY, 30 DECEMBER 2008
Tactical withdrawals and tactical manoeuvres
“Meanwhile, speculation is rife about a schism in the LTTE hierarchy. Rumours are circulating that Poddu Amman and Colonel Soosai have been relieved of duties, and various other Colonels are under house arrest. The blog owner can confirm that these reports are entirely without merit and there is not even a shred of truth in these fabrications. Poddu Amman, Colonel Soosai and the other Colonels are in their respective positions and have the full support of our leader. Also there was news that Colonel Ramesh was seriously injured and in a critical condition, we can confirm that Colonel Ramesh did suffer from shrapnel wounds, however, the injuries are not life threatening in any way and he is expected to recover very soon and lead from the front in the coming few days.”
WEDNESDAY, 31 DECEMBER 2008
LTTE vacates from Paranthan
Although Paranthan has fallen, supply lines to EPS and the MKN axis are intact as the LTTE never used the A9 to service defences north of Paranthan. As well as using covert land routes, EPS and MKN are being serviced by the sea tigers.
THURSDAY, 1 JANUARY 2009
Iranamadu withdrawal
“The LTTE's cadre strength and armoury is at 95% capacity. The ammo dumps are well stocked with supplies that reached in from the eastern coast last week. The battle hardened and well trained cadres have hardly been used during the current operations, and the modern arti and mortar rounds have not been utilised yet. Thus, the LTTE is expected to launch devastating counter attacks in the coming few weeks. The true might of LTTE's military strength will come to light once the SLA attempts to advance along the A35 towards Mullaitivu
FRIDAY, 2 JANUARY 2009
LTTE withdraws from Kilinochchi
These developments are most disheartening to all Thamils and if there should be a counter attack it should happen NOW. As I said in a previous post, it is very difficult to get military information from the LTTE hirarchy at the moment. Our usual sources have fallen silent and we can only speculate with regards to the Tigers' future plans.”
SATURDAY, 3 JANUARY 2009
Breaking News
The leader was reported to have sworn at Velavan as he was withdrawing againts the supreme commander's specific orders to defend Kilinochchi at all costs. Mr Prabhakaran was reported to have told Velavan to never come within his sight again. The LTTE intelligence wing has started internal investigations to assess Velavan's future as an operational commander
SUNDAY, 4 JANUARY 2009
Heavy fighting continues
Pro GoSL propoganda sites are claiming the occupation of Oddusudan and mentions that they have "entered" the township. The blog owner can confirm that a few SLA commando teams did enter the town in a pre-dawn offensive, however they were driven away by heavy mortar and HMG fire. Following the commando withdrawal, wave after wave of regular SLA infantrymen tried to advance on the town, however, the offensive was successfully repulsed and the LTTE is in full control of the town
MONDAY, 5 JANUARY 2009
LTTE withdraws from Oddusudan
Reliable sources have informed this blog owner that the LTTE has completed its tactical withdrawal from the Oddusudan township and the surrounding areas. The tactical withdrawal follows LTTE successful harvest operations against the advancing SLA infantry units.
MONDAY, 5 JANUARY 2009
Tiger vacate Elephant Pass
“The LTTE's overall strategy is now very clear. They have decided to forego occupation of symbolic towns and villages to regroup in the Mullaitivu jungles and launch guerilla raids on the SLA.”
TUESDAY, 6 JANUARY 2009
LTTE commandos rescue stranded cadres
“A number of LTTE regular cadres were stranded between the Muhamalai / Kilali defence lines and the EPS complex due to the advancing SLA infantry units. A sudden breakdown in communications meant that the cadres were not able to withdraw timely in line with the orders. The tactical withdrawal from the national front was in line with the plan devised by the LTTE military panel.”
TUESDAY, 6 JANUARY 2009
SLA Infiltration Attempt Thwarted - Puthukkudyiruppu
“News has just reached us that an advanced team of SLA's Commando regiment, operating several miles ahead of their FDLs, tried to breach LTTE defence lines in Puthukkudyiruppu.”
“The SLA spurred on by empty "victories" in Kilinochchi and Jaffna underestimated the strength of the LTTE in its Mullaitivu hinterland and tried to take on the Tigers in their own backyard. The doomed operation has resulted in loss of morale among SLA commandos.”
TUESDAY, 6 JANUARY 2009
Fresh conflicts among SLDF top brass
“News has just emerged of a major conflict brewing between the top brass of the Sri Lankan defence establishment. The conflict has reached epic proportions so much so that the Chief of Defence Staff (CDF) Air Chief Marshall Donald Perera was not able to defuse the tension.”
FRIDAY, 9 JANUARY 2009
Supreme Commander alive and well
“The Commander is safe in the Wanni and is directing his troops from a secret location. I urge all readers not to believe these completely unsubstantiated claims.”
This coming Sunday, we will publish our first weekly defence column
FRIDAY, 9 JANUARY 2009
Poddu Amman surrenders to GoSL
Poddu Amman, LTTE intelligence wing leader and former second in command of the LTTE
Mahen, if you say this news is true, modayas will give you a house and few chena girls in Colombo. What you think? Follow the footsteps of Karuna, DD, Pillaiyan..etc.
There should be some reasons why idiot thiru is MIA lately, may have been found better deal with few houses and half dozen chena gals in Colombo.
I'm sure LTTE leaders will participate in Deal or No Deal game very soon.
VP has escaped by sea to a foreign country. India was so busy in capturing hin in sea.
"Pottu Amman Tactitally Withdraws to the Other Side"
Man.. that is sooo cool, you should seriously consider this heading Mahen.
BTW, in addition to Deal or No Deal LTTE leaders can go for "Dancing with the Stars" too!
""isurujosh said...
Raptor if we also torture our enemy for hatred or fun we become just like them.""
When a murderer is convicted and given the death sentence does the judge also become a murderer??
did rathnam master replace poddu amman?
mahen, one question i have is why didn't the ltte arrest him themselves when they knew he hadn't done his job properly like they did with mathaya and many others in the past instead of letting him surrender....this may prove to be a big blunder and may explain the many withdrawals that have taken place as pottu knows all sensitive info.
Thiru, I have the same doubt. I dont think LTTE would have given him anychance of surrendering to the army. He must be one of the few who has knowledge of many sensitive information, including whereabouts of our leader.
Mahen, I'm utterly puzzled with your following remark
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Our source has relayed to us that the surrender of Mr Amman will not affect LTTE operations in any way as he was gradually relieved of his duties, and is not known to hold any sensitive information regarding the LTTE
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If former second in command (who was there for over 2 decades) does not have sensitive information, who ELSE WOULD HAVE? Its like saying that ALL the sensitive information is only known commander and he is running a one man show
Ada where is your weekly update? I am biting my nails in anticipation.
[Ada where is your weekly update? I am biting my nails in anticipation.]
Are you gal to bite your nails? Keep fondling your pencil lead penis, the update will cumm soon.
Jwick, I meant we should not practice "torture" for "fun and hatred". You don't seem to have understood what I said. Pay attention to the words I have put within quotes.
guys, I have said many times before that most of the LTTE leaders who already started to taste the family life, of them how many raped the young recruits are unknown, are pot-bellied out of shape old men who gives first priority to the family life but showing to the outside world that Tamil cause is their first priority since they do not want to lose the power/facilities which they enjoy through being LTTE commanders. Putting all the eggs on these uneducated 9 month pregnant leaders is what the huge mistake VP made so far in this Eelam War IV. If you look back at the Eelam war IV, no one from LTTE side gave inspirational leadership at the front lines. Every time enemy makes the move, he knows in advance exactly what to expect from LTTE next, otherwise how come he kept on coming hard even though they were having casualties rate at times- it simply amuses me- either they are getting good intel about LTTE break down which may have come from Poddu or other defected folks, or they are getting some good support from external forces which could India in this case.
correction.
it should read as "they were having high casualty rate at times"
My heart really melts for these lower rank cadres who should be given proper coordination and platform to fight this enemy other than throwing them as cannon fodders.
mahen mahen mahen.... we are waiting... where are u r updates??
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Bahirav Said
or they are getting some good support from external forces which could India in this case.
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I agree with you. I think the SLA is heavily assisted by the Indian crack commando team which took a record braking time of just under 48 hours to bring Mumbai attack under control
Are you gal to bite your nails? Keep fondling your pencil lead penis, the update will cumm soon.
I prefer to cum in your mouth Bhairav my gay buddy.
[Navindran you stupid SOB, we don't need no Indian crack commandos (heads of you peelamists, that's what's cracked!!). Those guys took 3 days to handle a handful of people @ Mumbai. Our SL forces are much better @ eliminating the terrorists as have been demonstrated in recent times.]
Tharu22 da modaya,
If you can't get the underlying sarcasm of stupid Indian commandos from the fake the "navindran"'s ID, you are certainly a modaya.
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Bahirav said,
If you can't get the underlying sarcasm of stupid Indian commandos from the fake the "navindran"'s ID, you are certainly a modaya.
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Were you being sarcastic too when you were attributing the success of the SLA to the 'big help' they were getting from India?
AK,
This post is meant for the short term consuptions of Singala madayans.
Nothing serious.
Tigers Shoot Fleeing Civilians; Two Children & Two Women among Seven Butchered
2009-01-10 13:15:02
KILINOCHCHI: HEARTBREAKING news of the tragic end of seven fleeing innocent civilians including one small child to Security Forces-held areas was reported from northern WANNI sector this morning (10).
According to confirmed reports, a group of civilians remained stranded in LTTE clutches in the east of MURUSAMODDAI and KANCHIPURAM were on their way to cleared areas with a view to seeking freedom and protection when barbaric terrorists now waylaying to prevent the influx of civilians went on opening firing at them indiscriminately and mercilessly killing one small girl of about three years, one boy, two women and three men.
However, forty nine others including two males injured in the same firing managed to arrive in the cleared areas of PARANTHAN seeking protection. Thirteen small girls, eleven small boys, thirteen women and twelve men were among those civilians.
58 Division troops who received the victims some of who appeared traumatized due to ferocity of their experience at first provided them with first aid and other basic needs immediately.
The dead bodies were to be taken to the nearest hospital while other escapees were to be handed over to civil administrative authorities.
""isurujosh said...
Jwick, I meant we should not practice "torture" for "fun and hatred". You don't seem to have understood what I said. Pay attention to the words I have put within quotes.
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isuru, your original response was to Raptor's message, but in that he/she never mentioned "fun or hatred". His/her reason was because "...they tortured caputred SLA soldiers and civilians they thought were collaborating with the SLA."
If you assumed that was "fun and hatred", that is your fault, not mine.
This is yet another bullshit of Mahen. Pottu has neither surrendered nor captured. Confirmed!
Jwick and Isurujosh,
What I meant is exactly what Jwick said. I have heard of the torture methods they used. and they are sick twisted and demented.
One method was heating a ball point pen and sticking it in a prisoners ear, when the pen cooled down they would pull it out. How sick is that?
I want them to feel the pain they inflicted on others. Thats it, this is not for fun, although I have an intense hatred towards all hardcore tigers. Not the poor conscripts.
Karuna, Pillayan, Pottu are all hardcore or were at one point. They deserve nothing less than what they gave out to others. I have suffered a huge personal loss due to them and I feel the pain of many others who have lost people close and dear due to these inhuman beings.
Its not for fun, its for them to know what they did to other people. Thats it.
Make no mistake, I am not racist in anyway, this is only directed at the terrorists, the hardcore elements who have committed atrocities.
Its similar to what happened after WW2 when most of the capture German high command was tried and hung for crimes agaisnt humanity. But before that were to happen, I doubt anyone would have said anything if those sick bastards were tortured in the same way they tortured other people.
Its not for fun mate, its for them to know how they hurt other human beings. Thats it, and thats where it stops.
"He feared for his life from LTTE loyalists who were unhappy with his performance".
This doesn't say much about the organisation does it. The loyalists just bump off someone when he doesn't perform. It fantastic. Its jungle law. That is the kind of organisation all you guys and tamil diaspora worship thinking as if LTTE is the eighth wonder. Tamils are not stupid not to understand that. Aren't they timid they can't stand against that. Tamil community has been suffering for the last 25 years cos they couldn't stand up for what was right.
Thiru,
"mahen, one question i have is why didn't the ltte arrest him themselves when they knew he hadn't done his job properly like they did with mathaya and many others in the past instead of letting him surrender"
Pottu was the intelligence chief- it was his job to know everything that was going on. Hence if there was any move to arrest him, he would probably be the first to know.
I am not accepting "Nachchikuda Mahen's" story about Pottu surrendering, though. If he is right then he can call me whatever he wants. If he is wrong then I will call him Nacho Pottu Mahen.
Bahirav,
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of them how many raped the young recruits are unknown, are pot-bellied out of shape old men
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i don;t think the failure can be attributed to one factor alone. It was multiple failures at many levels that brought the downfall of Tamils.
At lowest layers, pot belly is indicative of top brass getting lazy. Although, things like lack of man power, supplies lines being cut, fund collection problems overseas post 9/11 etc made the biggest impact. The SL military has also come a long way from being a ceremonial outfit.
The new world order is one of openness, inclusiveness and collaboration. The middle layers forming fascist, primitive and inward looking ideology of Tamils is incompatible in the 20th century. These were trendy in early parts of 19th century but not any longer.
in the end though lower layers were always doomed to fail. It was doomed to fail because the high order case made along historical, political, economical and geographical principles were very dodgy. Prabarakan was given a dead rope by the likes of TULF. he took it as long as he could.
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K Bala Said
This post is meant for the short term consuptions of Singala madayans.
Nothing serious.
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This kind of post will only serve to further demoralize the tamils, while the Singala modayans are at a all time high due to the recent blunders of LTTE.
Its extremely counter productive if Mahen had made this post in order to fool the chena boys
Mahen,
It is sad but this time too you are wrong!. This is a NULL event! But there are few events going on! and now onwards we Sinhala modays's getting the news first than you intelligent tamiz!
And we would like to hear your explanation on "Nadesan" story in "Lakbima" paper?
Bhairav,
So tell me, who are the bigger modayas, we sinhalese who are winning, or the LTTP who is being beaten like hell, or you die-ass-porahs, who still continue to cling in to peelam dream!!
BTW, look at the positive man...Once LTTP is gone for good you die-ass-porah will not have to "donate" your hard earned money for the "boys" anymore! In these hard times consider it an "economic stimulus package" from GOSL to help your personal finances and be tahnkful mate!!!!!
he he he
Jwick, what evidence do you have in support to claim the Raptor's torture was NOT for "fun and hatred"? He just mentioned that likes of VP and pottu deserve to be tortured and does not mention under what circumstances.
He wrote an empty check and I gave it a value and said the value is prohibitive. You also try to give it a value and justify it. What we both have done is giving a value to an emty check and interprete in our own ways. That happens when someone writes a blank check.
Please see my thought about torturing in my answer to Raptor shortly.
tharu22, you had completely misunderstood what Bhairav and Navindran said. If you still can't see that I suggest you read the posts again.
Raptor, I also have a close by who was lost in SLAF. You seem to justify torture for "revenge". If you don't call your description "revenge" then I am afraid we have to agree to disagree.
In my book "revenge" is fun+hatred. If you don't agree with that formula then I am afraid we have to agree to disagree again.
Interestingly you have talked about WWII judicial hangings and ASSUME that even if there were extra-judicial tortures and killings it still would not have been a problem.
I tell you what, ASSUMPTIONS are the mother of all fuck ups. It is the judicial process of brining the culprits to punishment in a lawful manner that made the allys change Germany into a manner that does not bring them into another WW. Compare and contrast treatment of Germany in WWI and WWII and their respective aftermaths. I suggest you read more on this subject on http://www.historyandwar.blogspot.com/
This is my stand and torture.
Torture of VP or Pottu or any LTTE is ok when...
1) it helps us to save lives of "non-seperatist" Sri Lankans by being able to make them reveal secrets
2) when it is not for revenge aka fun+hatred
I believe that in order to beat the separatists, Sri Lankans have to be better than Separatists in every possible manner, not alike them. Torturing for revenge is being just like them and that does not make us any better. Does it?
Jwick and Raptor I have ellaborated my case very clearly for an impartial mind to comprehend. You can twist words and interprete it in any manner you please. But I will not respond anymore on the subject of torture with you because I have told everything necessary and saying anything more is a waste of time for all of us. I hope you'd forgive my subsequent silence on the matter.
tharu22, since I have some time to waste today so let me help you understand Bhairav and Navindran.
Bhairav talks about lapses in LTTE leadership not SLA and Navindran is ridiculing Indians who took "ages" to crack mumbai case. One can comprehend that such crack commandos can be of no use to SLA. You have failed to understand the "literal meaning" of Bhairav's post and the "irony" in Navindran's. There is no reason why you had to attack them on those posts.
Now boy, don't get mad at me, I am just trying to help you understand. You can of course have a go at me as well but I won't reply becuase I know my intentions were pure.
tharu22, I like the way you discourage the diaspora. Surely the diaspora need a reality check now to figure out that Ealem is only a 30 year old nightmare.
I invite the diaspora to lay down their hatred and learn to live in harmony with rest of embracing "Sri Lankans".
I agree. Tamils around the world should be proud they are Sri Lankans. They can get together as they have done previously for wrong cause, this time for the right reason to develop the North and East for everyone to live in harmony.
Let's bury this thread:
Military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara yesterday denied rumours that Pottu Amman, head of LTTE intelligence wing, had turned himself in and been taken into custody by the security forces.
Game over, Nachchikuda Mahen. You are now Nacho Pottu Mahen.
Mahen's post in DN
When my Pottu Amman story is verified, let us see how many of you who did not hesitate to openly treat it with contempt would also openly apologise to me.
I don't think any of you ladies are (gentle)man enough to do it. I dare you.
sheeee sheeeee sheeeee mahen...with this latest Pottu Amman story does indeed turn out to be a dud...I guess u can sing u r reputation good byee...
:)
Mahen dont be disheartend by what the Singhala modayans say. We know your sources are accurate and you get first hand information. Except for some minor issues like backtracking on your own sentiments on the very next moment, yours is the most funfilled and inforamtive blog in our fight for Eezham (AKA Eelam)
09-Jan-2009 at 05:12 Mahen said...
The news is very worrying and disheartening.
09-Jan-2009 at 05:27 (just 15 mins after the above comment Mahane said...
This news does not come as shock to loyal followers of the LTTE as our supreme commander had fallen out ....
surrender of Mr Amman will not affect LTTE operations in any way as he was gradually relieved of his duties, and is not known to hold any sensitive information....
Mahen,
Where is your Sunday defense column?
Please do not disappoint 100s of our readers, who may like another stimulus package from you.
From the comments posted in the blog its obvious that most of Mahen's "100s of readers" are singala modayans who come here just for a good laugh
[[ Navindran said...
From the comments posted in the blog its obvious that most of Mahen's "100s of readers" are singala modayans who come here just for a good laugh]]
... and Tamil modayans cannot laugh.
Navindran macho, we all have been modayans at some point in time. It's high time we all set our differences and personal losses aside and start to integrate with one another and build a Liberal Democratic state in Sri Lanka. Gone were the days of ethnicity based communities and here comes age to build a Liberal Democratic state for the sake of all Sri Lankans to live in harmony.
No smoke without fire. There is also talk of Pottu Amman being reborn. Of course, Pottu cannot technically surrender because,
a) He is the one who lead many to go on suicide operations.
b) He's wanted internationally.
But Pottu can practically surrender under following circumstances.
a) Pottu can surrender to SL and help dis-integrate LTTE and perhaps help catch VP. (May be the claimed failed attack in Puthu has something to do this extent)
b) In retun Pottu dies or goes missing "officially" and is reborn in some other country.
Very few realise that the stuff we see in movies are sometimes lot closer to reality than most of us ever imagined.
isurujosh,
Ok i'll set our differneces aside, but only on one condition.
You have to admit that pro-Sri Lankan fellows have been bigger modayans than pro-Eezham (Eelam) fellows
:)
lier mahen,
please put some sambar news at least....any tactical withdrawals...tactical surendering...ho..ho....tactical abandon of blog update....at least inform us ok....lier
Navindran;
You have to admit that pro-Sri Lankan fellows have been bigger modayans than pro-Eezham (Eelam) fellows
Stop bullshit. Your idiotic arguments of intelligence being distributed according to racial barriers does not fit the intellectual levels of our discussions. It only deserves someone's vulgar MBRL attack.
Can't you simply understand that modayas and intelligence is distributed among every race, religion or any other classification.
However, time has proven that eelam was a foolish investment, a never to be land, just speculated for too long thanks to few weaker leaders in SL. We don't call you modayas for doing this. Just that you chose to invest for wrong company. It was one hell of an extravagant act by diaspora, finally they lost.
In the contrary, Sri Lankans, of all intelligent capacities, just lived a normal life. If any moda act as a nation, that was not squashing the pussycat mayhem long before. But it is never too late.
But when you lost do not blame us. If you bet for Bangladesh to beat Australia in a game of Cricket [which has higher possibility compared to Pussycats] do not blame Australians when the game is lost. Forget those dollars a day and move on with your life.
AmmaGG pardon me for attacking your seeya-pal.
isurujosh,
Sure, I missed the “irony” in Navindran’s…my bad..
As for “Bhairav’s”, I got what he said, but my point was that the Diaspora which funds the LTTE are as bad (and probably even worse) than the ones who fight. (At least the ones who fight will die with their screwed-up mindsets but the Diaspora will not (not in the short run anyway))
And why should I have a go at you bro.. it’s all in good spirit!
@tharu22: you are a very nice man :)
The problem with Tamil (As well as Sinhala) diaspora is that they are so dettached from the ground situation. Their convictions are based on ASSUMPTIONS and prejudice.
As I always say. ASSUMPTIONS are the mother of all fuck-ups lol.
@Navindran: proportionately it's the same numbers I guess lol. Nevertheless, we should unite, don't you think?
Bhairav you are pending a reply to me in DW.
isurujosh,
I think propotiantley we are far superior than chena boys. That's why we want an etnically pure eezham (AKA eelam) homeland to live seperately from the brain dead singala modayans.
Mahen,
I have been visiting your blog from morning hoping to get some hearty laugh from the propsed Sunday funny column. I'm tired man, if you do get to post it pls do put an update in DW or DN for the benefit of the fans
Mahen,
Are you OK mate? I am bit worried of you with no reply. Becasue it will be not White Van but your fellow Dissporians are lookong for Vendetta! (anyway it was LTTE directly and in-drectly killed more number of tamils)
It is freezing in Chester/Crewe so good conditions for nice imagination and aother fairytale...!
Navindran, you're stand is very clear.
I am sure you're struggle will be as sucessful as it has been in the past.
I take comfort in knowing that you're aspirations don't come true in you're life time.
SUNDAY DEFENCE COLUMN
We can now confirm from our sources in Wanni that our Supreme leader has stratgcally relocated to an undisclosed (but much nicer) location outside Indian Ocean with the family. Highly placed (who are now on trees with white flags) sources said Supreme family has used TAF-1 (simillar to Airforce-1used by American Presidents).
As you know according to the Religious beleief temple/kovil/place-of-worship will be automatically relocated to the place where the god-statue is moving. Going by tradition, so now Officially the Eelema is wehre the Sun Goat is (which will be annuonce in our next Sunday Defence column).
To the loyal Diaspora (who are Intelligent Tamiz) this is not a suprise as they have invested for this move for last 30 years.So dont be suprised if you See your deaerst Thambi in you nearest Petrol-Shed, ASDA/Wallmart or even in Cash and Carry wearing a nice winter Jumper with Eeelam Logo.
You prayed for the Eelam which is far away. But now Eeleam has came to your own neighbourhood. What else our dear Dispora can expect from the Supreme Leader?
And in this year 2009 we can Celecrate the Mahavir and Achivement of Eeelam with the Mahavir himself.
Also it is learned from the same reliable source (which informed us about the re-capturing of Nachchikuda), All other LTTE leaders surrendered to the genocide SLA. It is not a move of tretchory, but to show how brave they are. Their bravery is such that they have no fear even walking to the SLA with their own families. But it is sad and dissapoiting that some of our hard-core members are not that brave and betrayed the tamiz casue in this way :
http://lankalibrary.com/images/ltte-bodies.jpg.
So with all going well...Now it is confirmed that Eelam is around the corner!
sorry for my typo error. it's "your" as oppose to you're" in my previous post.
Joke of the Year!
Hey!Mahen, brush your teeth
who is this crazy Mahen??u will never get ELAM...its only a dream of Parabaharan and urs...u never be able to fight with LIONS.
this bad news ELLALAN FORCE conform this news.... go back eelamm.weebly.com
http://eelamm.weebly.com/
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